“I'm tempted to add that in some cases, established psychopaths and serial killers may stand a better chance of obtaining CRB clearance, depending upon the local demand for their skills. But that would be really crass and only make Jerry think I was referring to him again (only winding you up, Jerry, don't worry, mate)”

“Karen is correct about CRBs being used differently for continuing long-term employees than for new applicants.

The explanation for your caution not being on your certificate is perhaps you only have a standard CRB, where only unspent convictions appear. But if you have an enhanced one, then this is an error, because enhanced CRBs should by law contain all spent and unspent convictions, cautions, warnings and reprimands, as well as any arrests, even if no further action was taken, and any su****ons that have ever been raised about you (even without your knowledge), regardless of if no further action was taken. So yes, you have been very lucky that this mistake was made, as you may not have got the job you're in if your CRB had been accurate.

Also, employers of continuing employees just doing another yearly check are unlikely to care about any new convictions they have, as they know and trust the employee, whereas they will never in a million years hire anyone new who has a recent conviction or even arrest. So it is not a level playing fields, it is just giving employers another excuse to use preferential treatment internally and never offer jobs to outsiders.”

“Kagey, please do not comment on something you know nothing about. I have been doing my current job 6 years now and as i said if you bothered to read it before posting profanities, i said "i got a caution when i was a kid"

SO...How do you explain it saying "NONE" in the box when i got my current job 6 years ago?

Pay attention dear.”

“I think Jerry is missing the point, really. The reason why he's been given CRB clearance is because he's already in a job and not applying for a new one. If he was to leave his current post and apply somewhere else, I doubt if the outcome would be so favourable. A lot of people who have been employed in secure, long-term work are often unaware of the differing criteria applied to local jobless people. New applicants also need to have basic numeracy and literacy skills that many long-term employees have never had to worry about.

I can't stress enough that CRB checks, like temporary contracts, merely serve part of a wider process of job reduction and disenfranchisement. In the case of the police, one could even argue that CRBs have been cynically used to widen the them and us culture and make tit for tat cuts in policing more palatable to the public over time. You need to look at the bigger picture and have a strategic grasp of policies to understand them fully.”

“Also there are numerous people with criminal histories who I would not call "criminals". Such as people who've been wrongfully convicted, victims of the strict liability and joint enterprise rules, and people acting in self-defence who've ended up being convicted murderers, e.g. homeowners challenging burglars and women standing up to their abusive husbands.”

“I don't think a criminal who has never committed a crime can actually be called a criminal. So you would hardly expect to find them on a list. However if you can devise a test to find this out I'm sure the police, the courts and batman would be very interested in your work paulmh66.”

“Any way, a CRB check is no use against a criminal who has never been caught or has yet to commit a crime. The only use of them is for an employer to keep an eye on those who have been caught for their crime.”

“Jerry, you must be lucky if a caution doesn't appear on your CRB check, as that is far from the most trivial thing that comes up on them. Simply being spoken to by a police officer can and does come up. I used to work in probation and I have seen dozens of CRB checks, and warnings, cautions and reprimands have all come up, and I have seen one saying "suspected of benefit fraud by neighbour - under surveillance for 6 months - no fraud detected". Police state of what? Also, I guess it depends on how jobsworth the local police constable is, so there is likely to be irregularity across the country.

Having your fingerprint taken or helping with a door-to-door enquiry might not lose you a job but it CAN stop you getting a job if you apply, and you are competing with an equally good candidate, and all the employer has to choose between you is the CRB certificate. FrankEnstein has proven that there are definitely employers out there who believe there is no smoke without fire, and would use something as small as that to deny someone a job.

I helped with a burglary enquiry in Bideford several years ago now, and I just refused to give me name, because I don't want anything else coming up that has nothing to do with me. If you witness a crime or have important details etc., I would encourage everyone to ring the anonymous number rather than the police directly if you want to avoid being classed as a danger to children.”

“Oh and just to add acomm, they are done in Lancashire and mine was done by a Sharon skinner.

Just to prove ive had one done and it DID NOT show up my caution when i was a kid.
There is a box that says "crimes, convictions, cautions, reprimands" Mine says NONE.”

“accom, dont talk rubbish. I have a FULL CRB check done every year at work due to working with large ammounts of cash. I had a caution when i was a kid too but does not show up on the CRB.
An before you spout off, i get a copy of the full crb from work and have seen it with my own eyes.

Seems to me yours comes up because you have done something more than you like us to believe. Unless im the luckiest person in the world for it not to be shown up on.....”