“He did it , He will do his full sentence cause not got the Balls to admit it ,prob a spur of moment thing prob would been manslaughter if he had of owned up ,dont blame his parents for trying to defend him any parent would given his story , just hope Bob and Sara get closure one day cause they are really nice people”

“Oh dear, It appears this site has become yet another place for Kay Rose to incite speculation about her son's case.
At the end of the day, an impartial jury convicted him of murder. The fact that Charlottes body has not been found tells me that the evidence must have been overwhemingly against him for the conviction to have taken place.

People will always gossip. And it seems to me that Kay Rose will never face up to the fact that her son is responsible. But whether he was a volunteer at a kids football club or you liked him at school, does this mean that he is not capable of murder? (or do killers walk around with a tattoo on their forehead?)”

“In answer to Ilf local, I agree with you on the subject of police incompetence on this case, further to your comment I would like to add a few things concerning the police not acting very professional, one of the things which we thought was really bad, was we were told by a couple of prosecution witnesses that as they were going in to give evidence the police were telling them that Nick was definitely guilty of murder, so how many others did they say this to!!!
Another thing was the car Nick had been driving, as far as they were concerned this was the crime scene, but they allowed the person who had been driving it the following weekend to remove items from the boot, it was bad enough that they did not get the car for 9 days, so talk about contamination of a crime scene!!
The C.I.D officers were driving impressionable young women prosecution witnesses around in a convertable!!!
Lastly when Nick was in the stand giving evidence there were a couple of officers in the public gallery sniggering and saying he was thick, we did make a complaint about this at the time.
I used to have respect for the police but not any more, it seems they just have to get a result no matter how many people they hurt along the way!

The witnesses you mentioned, were they the ones used in court???
If they were different ones i would like to have their names to give to our solicitor.

We hope justice is done very soon....”

“As someone who has lived in Ilfracombe for 30 odd years, i knew Nick a little he volunteered to run one of the kids football teams when i was involved with Lantern youth football. After the awful circumstances my wife was asked by the police to be a witness as on the Saturday morning she took our dog dor a walk past the 2 resevoirs and back again and our dog behaved strangely at a certain point in the walk which the police thought was significant and she was asked to do the walk again. While the police were waiting to take my wife for the walk an officer admitted to me that the police searching the site were clueless and were burying things rather than unearthing them and how he was convinced it was Nick who was responsible. I followed the case briefly without having a judgement in my head either way being a father of a daughter I could not imagine the anguish the Pinkney family must have gone through and still are. I later found out that if Charlotte was seen on the Saturday then this would put Nick in the clear. One night when I was out and the case was being discussed i was told that 2 people who I knew very well had seen Charlotte on the Saturday morning, I discussed this with 1 of them who confirmed that he and the other person had seen Charlotte on the Saturday morning, apparently this evidence was dismissed, having spoke to both of these people both will swear they knew Charlotte and seen her on the Saturday. After further talks in and around Ilfracombe it has become more and more likely that there has been a miscarriage of justice and a lot of people know a lot more than is publicly known and a lot of it has been suppressed. I just hope for both families Justice is done.”

“Even if Nick took a lie detector test and it came back he was telling the truth he would not be able to use it in court so whats the point?”

“Vern, if u know so much why dont u tell us where Charlotte is???
What makes u so confiden Nick is guiltyt???
I have heard and seen many screw ups from Ilfracombe police.
Why dont u back off from the Rose family they r doing what any family would to prove their sons innocence, they say themselfs if they truely believed Nick was guilty they wouldn't fight for him, but lets face it they know alot more about this case than u or I!
I still find it amazing after 3 days the police said she was dead before an investigation took place, they had no body or no evidence for a murder being taken place, since the massive search they have still never found her body.
They are still looking for little Madaline Mcann, so why not still look for a girl with a history of running off, are u people so sick you all want her to be dead? i still hope she is alive somewhere.”

“The simplistic methodology used in polygraph testing has no grounding in the scientific method: it is no more scientific than astrology or tarot cards. US Government agencies value it because people who don't realize it's a fraud sometimes make damaging admissions. But as a result of reliance on this voodoo science, the truthful are often falsely branded as liars while the deceptive pass through.

Something as simple as sweaty palms due to nervousness can sway the result and obviously someone who has a lot at stake would be very nervous.”

“The reference to the polygraph made by "NJSC" of Surrey is only using partial information.Factually the polygraph Test used in the U.S is highly reliable and when a test is recommended there are many caveats and safeguards.
The fact is that A Criminal who claims innocence will not harm his case by taking the test - It makes he wider public take notice and question the guilt.”

“interesting stuff. But the accuracy of the test depends not necessarily on the respondent (who will naturally try and cover up the truth hence lie detector) but on the skill and tact of the questioner. The test has improved significantly since 1997 (almost 12 years ago) and still carries weight. Combined with cicumstantial/speculative evidence it could actually be very useful. Few people can lie convincingly all the time.Liars betray themselves in other ways besides vocal lies. In USA they rely on the 5th (?) amendment to avoid the tests as they can then avoid anything which could incriminate them.”

“I thought this might be of some interesting reading!!

A 1997 survey of 421 psychologists estimated the test's average accuracy at about 61%, a little better than chance.[23] Critics also argue that even given high estimates of the polygraph's accuracy a significant number of subjects (e.g. 10% given a 90% accuracy) will appear to be lying, and would unfairly suffer the consequences of "failing" the polygraph. In the 1998 Supreme Court case, United States v. Scheffer, the majority stated that "There is simply no consensus that polygraph evidence is reliable" and "Unlike other expert witnesses who testify about factual matters outside the jurors' knowledge, such as the analysis of fingerprints, ballistics, or DNA found at a crime scene, a polygraph expert can supply the jury only with another opinion..."[24] Also, in 2005 the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals stated that ¿polygraphy did not enjoy general acceptance from the scientific community¿.[25] Charles Honts, a psychology professor at Boise State University, states that polygraph interrogations give a high rate of false positives on innocent people!!

Polygraph tests have also been criticized for failing to trap known spies such as double-agent Aldrich Ames, who passed two polygraph tests while spying for the Soviet Union.[26][28] Other spies who passed the polygraph include Karl Koecher,[29] Ana Belen Montes,[30] and Leandro Aragoncillo.[31] However, CIA spy Harold James Nicholson failed his polygraph examinations, which aroused suspicions that led to his eventual arrest.[32] Polygraph examination and background checks failed to detect Nada Nadim Prouty, who was not a spy but was convicted for improperly obtaining US citizenship and using it to obtain a restricted position at the FBI.”